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  • troglodytetrain 35 minutes ago
    So it is funny satire.

    But my wife is finishing up her PHd and according to her: all students are using ai and pretending they are not because the PI and other older leadership treat any use of ChatGPT or similar as plagiarism and not allowed at any stage. Which I think is simply stupid.

    I showed her how to use ChatGPT since Claude was blocking on all her request (biologist) and it has helped her massively improve the wording and structure of her paper as English is not a first language for her.

  • low_tech_love 15 hours ago
    It’s a joke and all but also not really? You might have to go do a chalk talk at some point, and that is basically the only part of this article that is actually not real. The rest (about how everyone in academia is prompting everything) is absolutely VERY real.

    The word around all the scientific communities which I’m in contact with (to be honest, not so many) is basically “oh, there is no way to stop it, so we’ll embrace it”. All the conferences which I’m active in (say a handful of them) are just pretending nothing is happening and dealing only with blatant and obvious exaggerated cases. If you’re good at prompting, you’ll prompt, and there is no way in hell someone that doesn’t prompt has any chance at all at, well, anything academic really.

    • tejohnso 14 hours ago
      The "not really" aspect is so significant that it's barely a joke. It's more serious and thought provoking than a simple joke. I guess that's how good satire works.

      This in particular I found quite interesting:

      "My research is a collaboration between me and several large language models. We are co-investigators. When you ask me to explain my research without ChatGPT, you are asking me to speak on behalf of a collaborator who is not in the room. "

      As people start to regard these LLMs or agents as collaborators rather than tools, it's going to become more realistic to make a statement like that. When I use a hammer, I can't ask it what type and size of nail I should use to do the job. It can only help me with the physical hammering. But when writing with an agent there is a conversation and some decision making that it is responsible for. I might go down a path that I otherwise would not have thought of on my own. And then there's the possibility that I also talk to it about my personal life and have an emotional relationship with it. I could easily see someone wanting to credit their AI agent as a recognized partner in their work.

  • avaer 8 hours ago
    A funny piece, but what if all of the following are true:

      - AI *is* how real research is done
      - Incentives are such that this is how researchers must work
      - Academia institution does not have a structure to accept this reality
    
    Academia did this to itself. By hiring based on volume of output/citations, the way for researchers to win is to game the system better than the next person. AI just exposes that the old power structure doesn't serve much academic purpose.

    Maybe we should take away the grants from the universities and put them into autoresearch loops + human reviewers?

    • JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago
      The chalkboard test is useful despite textbooks existing. The point is if you can’t problem solve “in memory,” there is a latency and limit to creativity fundamentally enforced by your ability to make connections. And in the end, if all you need is ChatGPT, a grad student is cheaper.
    • solresol 5 hours ago
      In some fields, all of those statements are true already.

      In a large number of few fields, all of those statements will be true in the near future (10 years maximum).

      There's no reason that the Humboldtian model should be the right structure for the next century's universities, just as it wasn't the right structure for the 18th century's universities.

      • dag100 3 hours ago
        Wow, I can't wait to live in a world where nobody knows how anything works, some people are arbitrarily rich and some arbitrarily poor with no ability to change their standing in life, and, worst of all, people celebrate these developments, even if they may be in the poor cohort, as progress.
    • anthk 2 hours ago
      This is how you get Idiocracy instead of geniouses.
    • LIMEVINCE 4 hours ago
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  • mrgoldenbrown 17 hours ago
    This is satire.
    • Dependance 16 hours ago
      Honest question : does it need to be said ?

      It's like the /s sign. Can some people not, for themselves, realize that this text is meant as a more or less a joke ? And before you ask, yeah, I am aware some of the people are on the spectrum, but still...

      Is humor that hard to grasp on the internet ?

      • cvoss 15 hours ago
        Yes, it does need to be said. Many people will read this article and miss the satire, which is, in part, the intent of sophisticated satire. The point is that it is outlandish and foolish and ridiculous and yet still resembles some serious discourse that real people engage in. So much so that some onlookers can't tell the difference. That proves the satirist's thesis: the real world is full of ridiculous people making ridiculous arguments and they can't even see themselves or their arguments for what they are.

        I know real life people who write essays with claims as outlandish as "software engineering is an ableist field" and are dead serious. But that assertion belongs just as well in a satire piece. It can be very hard to tell if you don't have prior context for the author.

        • wiseowise 2 hours ago
          > the intent of sophisticated satire

          Perhaps they can ask ChatGPT to explain this “sophisticated” satire.

      • swatcoder 16 hours ago
        Among others, the voices on the internet include:

        * some sincere people with very extreme takes,

        * some trolls that masquerade as the above, to bully others over their credulousness and lack of guile, which is distinct from sarcasm,

        * some trolls that insincerely speak anything that earns engagement,

        * and more and more bots that mimic the above

        So sadly, the answer to your question is generally yes.

      • JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago
        > Honest question : does it need to be said ?

        Yes. There are literally people who believe any thinking done without AI is Luddite and subpar.

        These are not, in my experience, people who have done any great thinking in their lives. They do tend to tweet a lot.

        • low_tech_love 15 hours ago
          Why would you bother telling them it’s satire?
          • beepbooptheory 9 hours ago
            Because we are all learning and changing and no one is a lost cause.
            • wiseowise 2 hours ago
              After browsing Twitter for 5 minutes, I’m not sure about that.
      • H8crilA 16 hours ago
        When I started reading it I thought for far too long that this person is actually stupi^H^H^H^H^H serious. So writing that it is satire is useful for people that do not read enough of the text, and just jump into the comments :) Also, this type of behavior has little to do with the neurodivergent spectrum, if anything it touches personality types, maybe maybe some trauma or addiction, unlikely to be caused by anything in the affective space (episodes would be too short) or psychosis space.
        • em-bee 15 hours ago
          same, i didn't catch the satire and eventually got tired of the stupidity. the thing is, a lot of people around me are using AI like the person in the story. and they are entirely serious. they are not scientists but they could be writing this article and actually mean it.
        • xg15 15 hours ago
          I was honestly unsure until the Netflix password bit gave it away...
      • LIMEVINCE 3 hours ago
        Sadly I have to admit I read it and didn't know it was satire. The way they described using LLMs to to achieve research results sounded plausible enough to me. As an attorney, I also fear a race to the bottom where legal research becomes simply editing the work of AI. Also, the idea of being subject to a test with little relationship to professional practice reminds me of the bar exam; which requires intimate knowledge of almost all areas of the law despite the fact that practicing attorneys generally are only familiar with their specializations (eg, it would be unwise to retain a civil rights attorney to represent you for even a traffic violation); and requires all the knowledge to be memorized, even though it would be unthinkable (and most likely malpractice) for any attorney to practice relying solely on memory.

        I also suspect that there are attorneys out there who are starting to use LLMs to generate legal work with a method similar to what the author described (generate prompt, revise minimally). Lawyers are taught to write a certain way which LLMs mirror flawlessly; the surest way to identify LLM generated legal writing is if it happens to hallucinate citations. I used to regularly find hallucinated citations, and occasionally strange reasoning, but both have largely vanished as the LLMS improve.

      • ofjcihen 15 hours ago
        I think sometimes it is but only if the humor relies on a tone.

        When it’s satire I think the main blocker of recognition is if you have an emotional reaction first.

        As an example, if you are a diehard AI influencer or something you might miss the joke entirely because of the severity of your initial negative reaction.

        Just my two cents. Glad I could contribute to completely beating the humor out of this post :)

      • mjr00 16 hours ago
        > Honest question : does it need to be said ?

        At the current time I'm writing this, all other top-level comments are engaging with the article as if it were sincere. So, yes.

      • inigyou 1 hour ago
        I got Poe's lawed
      • vessenes 15 hours ago
        It does, but unfortunately, this is in-crowd communication -- it's too high brow to hit anyone that needs to read it. But I enjoyed it, and I'm sure it was cathartic to write
      • Mistletoe 16 hours ago
        Yes because Poe’s Law has never been more true than the current era.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

      • pessimizer 10 hours ago
        1) No it does not have to be said. Nobody is forcing anyone to explain anything.

        2) I think that the best satire is fair, and should read to the targets as real commentary. When someone takes your satire seriously, it means that you have successfully commented on reality. Is that inverse Poe's Law?

        Otherwise you're just putting words in your enemies' mouths that they would not ever say. I think people do this because they don't have the strength of their own convictions, and wouldn't be able to stand people not getting their joke (and worse, confusing them for extreme believers in something that they disdain.)

        To them I would suggest that one doesn't try to make arguments through satire, one rather demonstrate arguments through satire. If you need to make your argument with satire, you actually don't have an argument. Satire without a solid underpinning argument is just propaganda.

      • PunchyHamster 15 hours ago
        Humor died few years ago after series of increasingly more improbable events happening. "USA voted pedophile that bankrupted 3 casinos into second term" was stuff out of Onion decade ago, so some researcher walking into job interview with ChatGPT doesn't even move a needle on satire scale.
      • antonvs 8 hours ago
        As often happens with satire, you could read it as satirizing the idea that people should entirely rely on their own knowledge and memory, without AI assistance. The response to the article depends heavily upon one’s perspective on the subject.
      • krater23 10 hours ago
        It's hardly too near on reality to not to say it.
      • CodesInChaos 16 hours ago
        I regularly get reddit comments downvoted by people who don't recognize it's obviously satire.

        Sometimes somebody else comments "why is this getting downvoted, it's satire", and that stops or reverses the influx of downvotes.

        • dag100 3 hours ago
          It's reddit. The average intelligence of reddit users has been progressing downwards since 2010 or so with major drops in 2016 and 2020. Most users are clueless teenagers who haven't read a book in full throughout their lives.
      • vector_vibe 3 hours ago
        exactly!
      • alterom 15 hours ago
        As someone on the spectrum, I can assure you that being on the spectrum is not an obstacle for understanding this kind of humor.

        In fact, is the neurotypicals who struggle getting it because they rely on nonverbal cues (like a sarcastic tone of voice), which is missing in text, to detect humor.

        Deadpan, dry humor is generally more amenable to the autistic mind, because it doesn't have what we consider noise.

        If someone needs a laugh track to tell that something is a joke, then either it's a bad joke that wouldn't be made any better with a laugh track, or the problem exists between keyboard and chair.

      • cyanydeez 16 hours ago
        do LLMs dream of electric shhhheeep
      • bigstrat2003 16 hours ago
        > Is humor that hard to grasp on the internet ?

        Yes. Humor is very hard to grasp via text, especially sarcastic humor, because in person we use voice and body language to signal that something is meant as a joke.

        • necovek 15 hours ago
          While it is true humor is hard to grasp in text, it has been done that way for millenia in books, and it continued to work as it should. Actually, the fact that it is sometimes misunderstood as non-humor is for the better.
        • CodesInChaos 16 hours ago
          And because we typically know enough about a person to tell if the opinion they expressed is consistent with their believes.
        • Planktonne 11 hours ago
          I mean this sincerely, rather than as dismissal: humor is not very hard to grasp in text for people who are fully literate and fluent in the language being used.

          The problem we face is that a lot of people are in deep denial about their level of functional literacy.

      • EA-3167 16 hours ago
        On this site? Yes it does, and even then we have people missing the point in the comments.
      • ghusto 15 hours ago
        When it's this poorly executed, yes it needs to be said.

        I was going back and forth on whether it was for far longer than I should have been.

        • Planktonne 11 hours ago
          > was going back and forth on whether it was for far longer than I should have been.

          Please consider that the fault here might be in you, not the text.

        • JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago
          > When it's this poorly executed, yes it needs to be said

          Isn't that a mark of great satire? That the argument sort of works within the zeitgeist, thereby showing the zeitgeist to be corrupted.

          Over-the-top satire is funny. But it's clumsy. The fact that some people who are being satirised will agree with the satire is what makes it great.

    • shikon7 15 hours ago
      It likely is, but it is still uncanny to think about how much of it is actually true.

      Is it making fun of people relying on ChatGPT, or is it just an exaggerated description of how she actually does research, honestly I don't know.

      • alterom 15 hours ago
        That's what makes it good satire.

        But if you honestly think that someone applying for a postdoc can't explain what their research is about, it's on you.

        • loup-vaillant 1 hour ago
          Applying for a position is a much lower bar than having any chance of landing the position.

          I’ve interviewed someone for a programming position. The guy practically nailed the standard quiz (done at leisure before the interview), but was unable to explain why he answered what he answered. When we got to reviewing a little program (compare two strings, see if the distribution of letters is the same), he could not walk me through it. He was applying for a programming position, and could not explain his "own" impressively correct programming answers.

          Well at least postdocs have a PhD, that they had to defend in front of a chalk board I presume. Still, sometimes, frauds do slip through.

    • flkiwi 16 hours ago
      I hope so, but I work with people with exactly this attitude and approach.
      • wk_end 16 hours ago
        That’s what makes it good satire.
    • andrewclunn 16 hours ago
      I agree. ChatGPT told me it was most likely satire.
    • rebolek 16 hours ago
      thank you, captain obvious
    • rtaylorgarlock 16 hours ago
      Your comment, or the post? ;) (I'll see myself out)
      • rtaylorgarlock 9 hours ago
        Hold on, rational humans downvoted this? Because you can't discern which is satirical and you have no sense of humor? I'll give you the same treatment I give cringe lords in online first-person shooters: take a shower.
  • xelxebar 5 hours ago
    This is about software developers.
    • vonunov 2 hours ago
      Oh, hell! How the tables have pivoted. I was sitting here shaking my head at all the people who didn't realize this postdoc had written a satirical piece and wasn't really insisting that she should be allowed to use ChatGPT at her chalk talk. . . . Chalk talks aren't a thing! Anymore. It's about whiteboarding lmao
  • neilv 15 hours ago
    One of the better-written ones I've seen. Am sending it around to some professors.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 9 hours ago
    I would guess this is a tongue-in-cheek essay (I hope), but it’s probably kind of prescient.

    I’m old enough to remember when calculators were banned from classrooms, for almost the exact same reasons that people are giving against AI.

    It’s really only a matter of time.

    • ShinyLeftPad 7 hours ago
      X were banned because you need to learn or demonstrate the ability to do Y.

      X = calculator, Y = addition and subtraction

      X = LLM, Y = thinking

      they are not the same

    • Dylan16807 8 hours ago
      I don't really follow this comparison. The protagonist was able to use an AI in the same ways they could use a calculator or most tools. You don't use them in the middle of delivering a presentation.
      • ChrisMarshallNY 8 hours ago
        Sure you do (but I’m pretty sure the original was a joke).

        Calculators, computers, phones, etc., are standard parts of any design meeting, these days. I interviewed a number of folks, over the years, that brought laptops, and used them to demonstrate their work.

        • wiseowise 2 hours ago
          No, you don’t. Not in the way the essay portrays it. You don’t ask your calculator “what am I supposed to do with number 2, 2 and funny star (*)”, do you? You have a clear calculation in your mind: multiply two by two.
        • epihelix 6 hours ago
          In research science, it's very normal to require zero aids at an interview, and has been for some time. No calculators, no laptops, no phones -- just you.

          Yes, you'll also give a seminar with slides to present your prior work, but the whole point of the chalktalk is that it's you, and you alone, presenting your future plans. You're grilled by the faculty on your ideas, and you have to defend yourself without any props or crutches.

        • ChrisMarshallNY 2 hours ago
          As youse guys pointed out, it’s an imperfect analogy, but the Rubicon has been crossed. The cat is out of the bag. The genie is out of the bottle. The horses have left the barn. The die is cast. Alea iacta est. Ain’t gonna put the candy back in the piñata.

          We’ll just have to see what happens.

        • Dylan16807 7 hours ago
          I've never used a calculator in a meeting. And while people will bring a laptop for convenience it's usually to show slides, a thing that can be easily enough done without the laptop. Or to take notes, which is even easier to do by hand. And a smartphone isn't needed at all.

          So, really, I don't think the comparison works out.

          The calculator is the example that's most directly an important tool that short-circuits something you could do by hand. But again, I've never used one in a meeting and it's not the kind of thing you'd be doing much of in a meeting.

  • mlacks 16 hours ago
    Quite a clever way to take a jab at the cross-coast rival. Well done
  • g42gregory 15 hours ago
    I hope people understand that this is a satire. :-)
  • whatsakandr 14 hours ago
    Reminds me of a sub plot from Accelerando. Wasn't a huge fan of the book but it left an impression.
  • krallja 11 hours ago
    > It is, in other words, a ritual designed in 1974 and never updated.

    The Chalk Talk was not invented after the IBM System/360. This entire article is clearly a joke.

  • firefoxd 15 hours ago
    Do note that this was written in December 2025, and we have experienced leaps in capabilities since then. Her methods are outdated. Since January, I've been employed at 3 jobs, fulltime, by using ProxyAI [0]. I'm Chair in several universities. For all I know, I'm also part of several projects.

    Don't let this kind of blatant discrimination affect you. The future is bright.

    Note: the service is free once you give it access to your bank account.

    [0]: https://getproxyai.com/

    Edit: downvote from the haters, it's ok this account is managed by my proxy.

    • wiseowise 2 hours ago
      > stress free

      > fomo nomo

      > talk walk

      This is golden.

      • ahartmetz 1 hour ago
        I also like "Terms | Privacy | Terms" at the bottom. It's... that kind of weird error.
    • root_axis 15 hours ago
      The TAM for ProxyAI is even bigger than SpaceX's. Hopefully they IPO soon.
      • InsideOutSanta 14 hours ago
        The TAM is infinity, since agents need their own agents, which need their own agents, and so on.
  • vector_vibe 3 hours ago
    Loved it!
  • SteinsGoat 14 hours ago
    I mean... this has to be satirical, right? Surely nobody in the field of academia is this limited in their ability....
    • InsideOutSanta 14 hours ago
      Sounds like you should feed the article into ChatGPT to find out whether it is satire.
    • Cpoll 5 hours ago
      > this has to be satirical, right?

      Right.

      > Surely nobody in the field of academia is this limited in their ability....

      Wrong.

  • im3w1l 16 hours ago
    I see this text as more open ended than a warning. It's a description of a possible future for us to contemplate. Does it have good points does it have bad points? Being satire, the protagonist is a strawman of course, but doesn't she also have some good points? It's not easy to tell where exactly the author stands where, the true argument stops and the satire begins. That's not necessarily a flaw because it doesn't actually really matter where the author stands for our ability to discuss the subject.

    Scientist as prompter? Yes it seems fairly likely. But to what extent and how quickly will it happen? Surely scientists will still be able to at least give an outline of "their" work even in the future? Maybe?

    Otherwise maybe we it will be a sort of inversion of control, where the language model is the supervisor, and the humans in the loop are more like research assistants doing the dirty work? Instead of a human wearing an exoskeleton, an AI wearing a biological exoskeleton? But this can only be a temporary state of affairs as we won't be needed for that forever.

    A scientific project without human involvement? If a paper is published in a journal and no human wrote it and no human read it, is it really science? Does it really advance knowledge. Probably?

    • ahartmetz 1 hour ago
      A term has already been coined for AI driving human: the reverse centaur.
    • rolph 16 hours ago
      >>Instead of a human wearing an exoskeleton, an AI wearing a biological exoskeleton<<

      remember this the next time you encounter a request to donate your body.

      • im3w1l 16 hours ago
        I didn't mean it in the literal sense more like the AI is telling you do this do this do this do that and you relaying what happened and what you saw over text.
        • rolph 15 hours ago
          i thought so, but i ran with it.
  • devmor 8 hours ago
    Ah yes, and I wasn’t allowed a google search during my whiteboard interview, which was totally also discrimination.

    It is certainly not that case that the point of these exercises is to examine how you, as a person think and approach problems.

  • root_axis 16 hours ago
    It's actually embarrassing that she thought all that prompting would have been acceptable during the talk.

    A qualifed researcher would have had their agent perform the talk on their behalf rather than waste everyone's time.

    • iugtmkbdfil834 16 hours ago
      << << My own words? I haven’t used my own words since 2022. I’m not even sure I have my own words anymore.

      I thought about you wrote and I think you are right. Even though I am partial to author's POV ( despite some obvious, glaring issues ), I can't help feeling of two minds about it all. I don't want to undermine existing ecosystem, but then.. the existing ecosystem in research may need some decent shake up.

    • tptacek 16 hours ago
      It's a joke.
  • S1ned01 16 hours ago
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  • antibull 17 hours ago
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  • jdw64 16 hours ago
    But honestly, I think it makes sense. In my experience with programming, when it comes to building and delivering software, it's not really about memorization. Honestly, search ability has been far more important. Wouldn't it be fair to think of AI as just another search ability?

    What I'm curious about is this: in the end, experts are the ones who are best at distinguishing hallucinations. If you can just search with GPT and tell the difference, wouldn't that be enough? I can't imagine memorizing thousands or tens of thousands of lines.

    I have ADHD, and when I get nervous, I tend to forget what I was going to say, so it's even more true for me.

    • danudey 16 hours ago
      > Wouldn't it be fair to think of AI as just another search ability?

      If you're asking it questions, yes. It's like search but with a simulation of understanding and information synthesis far faster than a human can perform it.

      If you're having it write your code, no. It's like a junior developer who has no awareness of the bigger picture, of incompatibilities, of understanding that hasn't been contained and can't be derived from the codebase.

      > If you can just search with GPT and tell the difference, wouldn't that be enough?

      The situation the satire is describing is an individual who is unable to tell the difference. The way the scenario is laid out, everything she's 'accomplished' has been to prompt ChatGPT and publish its answers with some degree of editing; it's clear that she, as an individual, is not an expert, does not understand the thing she is presenting, and does not know any of what she has purported to know. This is also a sadly common refrain these days.

      > I can't imagine memorizing thousands or tens of thousands of lines.

      It's not about memorizing thousands of lines of text; it's about demonstrating to the panel that you have an understanding of the thing you're claiming to have an understanding of.

      I work with a lot of software and infrastructure at work. I can tell you how it all (or most of it) works together and interacts. I could not reproduce the configurations of any of the software from memory, nor recite any of the code, but I have an understanding of the system, how it works, what it was designed for, and what choices were made and why.

      The professor in this article does not have any of that understanding. It would be as if I had Claude deploy a cluster of X, Y, Z components, configure them, and get them online, and then put on my resume that I had done it. It was accomplished as result of me, but if I don't understand the system then there's no difference between me doing it and the CEO doing it, or my son, or someone from Taskrabbit.

      So yeah, it's not about memorization, it's about understanding.

    • bryanlarsen 16 hours ago
      You can bring notes to a chalk talk.
  • handoflixue 17 hours ago
    Calling it "Discrimination" is obviously absurd but if the process produces useful results, one ought to seriously consider whether it might be worth switching.

    I understand we have always conventionally transported goods by horse. Yes, this employee knows nothing about horses, and in fact is rather spooked by them, but we've checked! Their claim to be able to transport goods faster, without a horse, somehow seems to hold up.

    Maybe, just maybe, we should take this whole "truck" concept seriously?

    • wiseowise 2 hours ago
      Found Rachel. Thinking and doing things with this archaic thing called “brain” is not a horse, and using LLM is not a truck.
    • ekelsen 16 hours ago
      I don't think the argument is necessarily against the use of the tools entirely. My interpretation is that it's against delegating to them all understanding.

      Humans can only usefully steer LLMs if they have some understanding or context the LLMs do not.

      • handoflixue 10 hours ago
        The person in the story can clearly usefully steer LLMs if they got that far. So either they have that understanding and context, or it's not actually as valuable as was previously thought.
        • simonh 4 hours ago
          She says she can usefully steer LLMs, but how would she know? What knowledge of the research topic, methods and their applicability would she use to judge that, if all she’s doing is writing a prompt asking ChatGPT to write a summary of her research topic, methods and their applicability?

          Supposing using LLMs as research tools is fine, the chalk talk is still necessary to test that the researcher has the fundamental skills and knowledge necessary to discriminate usefully between alternative responses, and refine prompts and such. You can’t just get a response from an LLM and then refine it for your specific needs by saying “now refine that reply for my specific needs”. You need to know and understand what those are, and why.

        • wiseowise 2 hours ago
          She can’t answer a single thing without opening her laptop.
      • danudey 16 hours ago
        Put another way: if all that you're doing is prompting the AI and giving me the result then I have no use for you. If you're not contributing insight, understanding, experience, or creativity then it's far cheaper for me to prompt the AI myself.
  • topham 17 hours ago
    "prepared to do what I do every single day in my actual scientific practice: type a prompt and receive a coherent, well-structured response that I would then lightly edit and present as my own thinking."

    So, plagiarism. Daily.

    • TheJCDenton 17 hours ago
      This is satire
      • wrs 16 hours ago
        Replace science with software development and this just reads like half of HN right now.
        • georgemcbay 15 hours ago
          My thought process in engaging with the post was:

          Reading the title: I hope this is a joke.

          First paragraph in: Oh, good, it is a joke.

          75% through: Ok, this is a great bit of satire, but this reads uncomfortably like many of the non-joke discussions I've seen around software development over the past year.

        • redsocksfan45 15 hours ago
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      • rolph 17 hours ago
        despite being satire this is no joke, this is what we are headed into if we dont stop the decline.
        • bena 16 hours ago
          I think that's what the satire is trying to warn against.
    • handoflixue 17 hours ago
      But when humans do it suddenly it's "standing on the shoulders of giants"

      I don't get how you can possibly call it plagiarism if it produce a novel breakthrough - by definition, the existing knowledge base doesn't contain the new ideas generated in this process.

      And we've proven it can handle complex, novel thinking when it solved a significant Erdos problem back in May: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an...

      • ShinyLeftPad 7 hours ago
        The difference is thinking for yourself
      • topham 16 hours ago
        I don't have a problem using AI.

        I also acknowledge, when doing so, how I use it.

        But, literally typing in a prompt and then massaging its output and then claiming ownership of its plan? Yeah, no.

        It doesn't matter if the original article is supposed to be satire. I've been using AI to do some coding, I've been using it to help me plan a much larger project. It's a tool, and it's useful; but I am in control of the project, not letting the AI control me.

        Meanwhile in my day job, I've had multiple coworkers pump shit into AI and regurgitate the answer without critical thought. They are letting it make decisions for them without validating it first even.

        It's not really satire if we're already dealing with this attitude.

    • talon8635 16 hours ago
      What’s going on with social queues today where so many people here are not immediately understanding this is clearly satire?
      • joeframbach 15 hours ago
        I think this thread is a good indicator of llm bots vs human accounts on HN. The bots couldn't identify satire.